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Building the Transparency Economy with Benjamin Diggles from Constellation Network
On this episode of The Edge of Show (formerly Edge of NFT), host Josh Kriger sits down with Benjamin Diggles, Co-Founder of Constellation Network, to unpack how Constellation Network Digital Evidence is turning trust into a programmable feature of Web3. From years of work with the U.S. federal government to today’s emerging AI agents, Diggles explains why Constellation Network Digital Evidence is the backbone of a coming trillion-dollar transparency economy where data is verifiable at the source instead of blindly trusted.
Josh and Ben explore how Constellation Network Digital Evidence underpins products like the Builder Program, Real Estate Ledger, DOR traffic miners, and the Smart Checkmark—making reliable data a default for governments, enterprises, and crypto-native builders alike.
If you care about Web3 infrastructure, AI agents, DePIN, real-world asset tokenization, or compliant on-chain data, this conversation shows how Constellation Network Digital Evidence lets builders prove what actually happened—and get rewarded for it. The episode also touches on meme-driven communities, faith-based tokens, and how on-chain incentives can align business performance with everyday users in the real world.
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**Constellation Network Digital Evidence and the trust recession ** Ben explains why trust in digital content, AI outputs, and institutions is at historic lows—and how Constellation Network Digital Evidence creates evidentiary-grade records that restore confidence for enterprises, regulators, and Web3 builders without relying on third-party intermediaries.
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**From government contracts to Constellation Network Digital Evidence for everyone ** Constellation began by working with the U.S. Department of Defense and Air Force Research Laboratory, proving its distributed ledger was secure and scalable. Those same capabilities evolved into Constellation Network Digital Evidence, now accessible via a managed API and Builder Program for any dev or startup.
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**Constellation Network Digital Evidence Builder Program for devs and AI agents ** Josh and Ben dig into the Builder Program that lets anyone stream data to Constellation Network Digital Evidence—including AI agents—at no cost, gaining immutable proofs of origin and integrity while experimenting with new Web3 and AI-native applications.
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**Real-world assets, Real Estate Ledger, and Constellation Network Digital Evidence ** Ben walks through Real Estate Ledger, which records a property’s entire history—titles, warranties, improvements, and HOA actions—on Constellation. Powered by Constellation Network Digital Evidence, it helps fight fraud and creates Carfax-style transparency for homes and real-estate finance.
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**DePIN with DOR and Panasonic using Constellation Network Digital Evidence ** The conversation explores DOR’s thermal sensors and Panasonic Toughbooks as DePIN endpoints that feed foot-traffic and field-operations data into Constellation Network Digital Evidence, enabling provable analytics, safer first-responder workflows, and token rewards for real-world participation.
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**Smart Checkmark and the trillion-dollar transparency economy vision ** Ben shares how Smart Checkmark, built on Constellation Network Digital Evidence, could become the “Intel Inside” of trust—verifying news footage, AI content, documents, and IoT data—unlocking a new category of high-value, on-chain verified data markets.
Episode Highlights (Quotes)
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“We launched Constellation Network Digital Evidence so any organization can prove what actually happened with their data—not just hope it’s right.” — **Benjamin Diggles **
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“The teams that win will feed AI with Constellation Network Digital Evidence instead of noisy, unverifiable data streams that hallucinate and break trust.” — **Benjamin Diggles **
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“With Real Estate Ledger and Constellation Network Digital Evidence, your home’s history becomes as transparent as a Carfax report—fraud gets a lot harder.” — **Benjamin Diggles **
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“Door sensors plus Constellation Network Digital Evidence turn everyday foot traffic into a DePIN economy—businesses get analytics, and operators earn crypto for real-world activity.” — **Benjamin Diggles **
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“The Smart Checkmark built on Constellation Network Digital Evidence is like a lock icon for the AI era—you’ll know when what you’re seeing is real.” — **Benjamin Diggles **
People and Resources Mentioned
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Constellation Network Digital Evidence Constellation Network
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Panasonic Toughbook Coinbase
About Our Guest
Benjamin Diggles is the Co-Founder of Constellation Network, a U.S. blockchain company focused on cryptographically securing data so AI, enterprises, and governments can base decisions on tamper-proof information.
With more than two decades of experience across digital marketing, enterprise partnerships, and emerging tech, Ben has been instrumental in driving Constellation’s long-running work with the U.S. Department of Defense and other federal agencies, where the team validated its distributed ledger for secure, scalable data integrity.
Today, Ben leads strategy around Constellation Network Digital Evidence, the Builder Program, Real Estate Ledger, DOR DePIN hardware, and Smart Checkmark—initiatives that aim to unlock a “trillion-dollar transparency economy” by making trusted data a first-class primitive for Web3, AI agents, and real-world asset markets.
Guest Online Contacts
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LinkedIn Link: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrdiggles[ gbaglobal.org ](https://gbaglobal.org/members/constellation/?utm_source=chatgpt.com)
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Website Link: https://mrdiggles.com[ mrdiggles.com ](https://www.mrdiggles.com/work/?utm_source=chatgpt.com)
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Twitter Link: https://x.com/mrdiggles X (formerly Twitter)
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Benjamin Diggles:
Hey everyone. I’m Benjamin Diggles, co founder of Constellation Network and a relentless advocate for making blockchain infrastructure usable, useful and unstoppable. If you’re listening to the Edge of Show where we dive into the boldest ideas shaping Web3 and making their listeners unstoppable, stick around.
Josh Kriger:
Hey Web3 trailblazers. Today we’re sitting down with Benjamin Diggles, co founder of Constellation Network and a driving force behind some of the most mission critical infrastructure and blockchain. Today we explore how digital evidence is unlocking a trillion dollar transparency economy. How the new builder program that Constellation has deployed is opening doors for devs everywhere to put data on chain. And we get into the future of decentralized physical infrastructure with their game changing door platform that rewards businesses for tracking their foot traffic. All this and more on the Edge of Show where we highlight the boldest innovations building real world utility in web 3. Cue the intro.
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Welcome to the Edge of Show, your Gateway to the Web 3 Revolution. We explore the cutting edge of blockchain, cryptocurrency, NFTs, ordinals, DeFi, gaming and entertainment. Plus how AI is reshaping our digital future. Join us as we bring you visionaries and disruptors pushing boundaries in this digital renaissance. This show is for the dreamers, disruptors and doers that are pumped about where innovation meets culture. This is where the future begins.
Josh Kriger:
Hello and welcome to the Edge of Show. I’m your host Josh Krieger and we feature a variety of top notch guests and other hosts as well. It’s another production of the edge of company, a quickly growing media ecosystem empowering the pioneers of web3 tech and culture. And responsible for other groundbreaking endeavors like the Outer Edge Innovation Festival in LA and Riyadh as well as an upcoming event, the Future of Money, Governance and the Law. And so delighted to have one of our partners for that event on the show today, Constellation Network we have Benjamin Diggles, the co founder and a visionary in blockchain infrastructure, trusted data and decentralized innovation across real world industries. His work is truly pushing the boundaries of compliance, tech, defi utility and physical digital integration. Benjamin, it’s so great to have you on the show and to see you again.
Benjamin Diggles:
Yeah, I appreciate it Josh. It’s great to be here. I think you and I, we met for the first time at the Digital Summit event in late March of this year back in dc.
Josh Kriger:
Yeah, so I’m still here in dc. I’ve been. Well I’ve been many other places since, but I’m back in D.C. getting ready for our upcoming event and where are you today?
Benjamin Diggles:
I’m based in Denver, Colorado and I’m lucky enough to not be on the road, so I’m here in Colorado today.
Josh Kriger:
Cool. And I do think you end up getting to D.C. on a fairly regular basis. Correct?
Benjamin Diggles:
Correct. Yep. And of course we’ll probably talk a little bit about it. I’m going to be present at this upcoming event happening on October 30 as a speaker and as you know, Constellation is a sponsor of the event.
Josh Kriger:
Yeah. Thank you so much for being part of this fifth time event. It’s our first time at Edge of Company co hosting and you know, we’re hoping to bring some, some more special sort of sauce to the table and put on a great event for folks. We have speakers and attendees coming from all over the world in all aspects of government, enterprise and the industry. So it’s going to be great to have you there. But I really want to unpack sort of what you guys are doing because I think it’s so unique in this space and also sort of, sort of get a little bit more of a sense of sort of the insights that led you down the path that you guys have taken at Constellation over the last few years. So maybe we can start with sort of the moment you realized digital evidence was more than just internal innovation. What kind of sparked that moment where you thought this could be a product per se, not just for Constellation, but across industries.
Benjamin Diggles:
Yeah, absolutely. I’ll give a little bit of. I’ll set the table, if you will, to make sense of those that may have not heard about us. My team hates me saying this, but I always say Constellation is the biggest blockchain project you’ve never heard of. And I usually say that tongue in cheek because we are a team of builders that really keeps our head down and is focused on delivering these emerging solutions in the blockchain space. For those that don’t know, Constellation was founded in 2017. We were very quick to go to market with the federal government. We landed our first contract in March of 2016 or I’m sorry, 2019.
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And so we’ve been effectively contracting with the Department of Defense and other three letter agencies now for six and a half years. I’m sure people are probably tired of hearing that, but it’s a big point of pride for us considering we were one of the first, if not the first blockchain company to be involved in government contracts. We were validated by the Air force research laboratory, Department of Defense as secure, scalable and DoD approved so that really helped us sort of set the stage for what was to come in the company through the productization of digital evidence. But was always the vision, right, like, so when we started working with the federal government, this was back, as I mentioned, in early 2019, when most enterprise didn’t really want anything to do with blockchain, mostly because of the stigma attached to it. They oh, that’s that bitcoin thing. It’s expensive, it’s hard to run, it’s slow and it’s terrible for the environment. And they weren’t wrong. Outside of the expression of peer to peer payments that can be done on a bitcoin network, the network really wasn’t good for much beyond that.
Josh Kriger:
But man, everyone has tried to run everything on bitcoin at this point. This has been the last year and a half, it’s been, what can we do on bitcoin? Let’s build a game, right?
Benjamin Diggles:
Yeah, yeah. Payments. The answer is payments. So if you, if you want, if you want to do something on bitcoin, use it as a payment mechanism that you’re just going to have to wait and have some, you know, transaction fees, which is fine, right? I think bitcoin’s awesome. So I am a maximalist. I just want to make sure I’m not crapping on bitcoin here. But so, you know, with the, with the enterprise being sort of staunch about, you know, that there’s not going to be really any applications, we leaned into the federal government that saw a big opportunity in distributed ledger technology. And as I mentioned, we proved that out.
Benjamin Diggles:
But part of that strategy was to use the federal government to pin them against our roadmap and have them effectively pay for the commercialization of our network. So we do have programs and products that run within the federal purview. But what we did this year at the summit when we were chatting, I think it was March 28th of 2025 this year we, we launched Digital Evidence, which is effectively born from our efforts that we’ve done with the federal government. And the name we wanted to make it absolutely in your face. Didn’t want to have some cool sort of weird name. We want it to be like, hey, do you want Digital Evidence on data types, transactions, really anything, real world assets? Because it really points to the hallmark of what is the promise of blockchain, which is immutability, a term that a lot of us didn’t even use before blockchain came out. And so this vision come to life, I’m not going to lie, is a dream come true because we’ve been talking about blockchain as an ABI service since. Yeah.
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Back in 2019. So this year being able to unveil that has been not only very impactful for us, but I think it’s put a stake in the ground for the industry at large.
Josh Kriger:
Nice. And what’s been sort of the reaction so far from your, I guess, current and prospective customers in terms of the concept of digital evidence?
Benjamin Diggles:
Yeah, I mean, so it’s a very interesting thing because we’re living in a time that, I mean it’s hard to not to agree with this statement that trust is in an all time low. Right. Like we, we can’t even really believe what we see on screens anymore. Even though I feel like a lot of us still do. And that makes sense. Right. All of this technology has been coming, coming out in droves, at a neck breaking speed. I mean, what’s happened the last two years with AI is pretty hard to miss.
Benjamin Diggles:
Right. It’s changed everything. But I think that the residue or the byproduct of this sort of proliferation of net new technology has left us in a lack of trust because most of these large organizations, and I had no problem throwing names out such as Google and Apple, they’re both paying out lawsuits for, you know, doing things that were untrustworthy to their customers data. And these are people that I believe are people. These are companies that I believe should be setting the standard on doing the right thing on behalf of their customers. Then you get into anything that has to do with social media communications, the media general, it’s really hard to tell what you’re looking at or what you’re reading or what you’re consuming, if it’s real or not. And of course I’m telling this more from the consumer perspective, when we come to the enterprise perspective, that trust is absolutely paramount. If you’re going to be feeding AI data into some form of an automation or something that’s going to be a decision making system that could be critical in nature, you need to trust it.
Benjamin Diggles:
And unfortunately right now with hallucinations and a lot of the things, there’s just a ton of efforts kind of coming into like buttoning that stuff up as much as possible. So while I am not super happy that trust is in an all time low, there’s never been a better time for blockchain to play a role in being that additive layer within these workflows, systems and operations to restore that trust and create transparency and using immutable ledger technology in a meaningful way. So it’s, it’s really coming into a crescendo timeline of, of how it’s being received. And the last thing I’ll say just on that question you asked is, you know, it went from, like, back in the day. No, we don’t want it to. Okay, we’re curious. Can you educate us? But we’re still not ready to make any moves to 2025. We’ve seen, you know, Fortune 500 companies coming out of the woodwork saying, how do we create a practice around this and get this embedded into our workflows as soon as possible? So for a guy like me, it’s a pretty fun year.
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Josh Kriger:
Yeah. Wow. A lot, lot that you just shared there and. Yeah, exactly. Exciting to, to see the, the, the demand for, I guess, rebuilding trust in, in our society. Right. I mean, this technology with AI is fantastic. There’s so much, you know, potential.
Josh Kriger:
I know it shaved a lot of hours off of our organization and created a lot more efficiency. But there’s been conversations that have been a little weird over the last years. Like, Josh, do you want to know, have a video clone of yourself, read the news instead of having it read the news? I was like, yeah, that sounds like fun, but I’m not so sure I’m ready for a second, Josh. Right. Yeah. So these are, these are some of the challenges we have. And you know, Will, I am. Has talked a lot about identity and like this IP and what happens with that.
Josh Kriger:
I think there are a lot of IP challenges with the proliferation of data and just also data accuracy concerns and, and, and sort of, you know, some of this data just needs to be private and it needs to stay private. You know, so lots of things there that are really important conversations. And I think it’s really interesting as well that you guys are sort of shifting from just being more of a product company to a platform. With this new builder platform that you’ve recently unleashed, maybe can talk to us a little bit about the genesis of the builder program and sort of why you sort of decided to go in this direction.
Benjamin Diggles:
Yeah, yeah. Awesome. This is one of my favorite questions today, just because I’ll tell you what, I’ve been so excited about what we’re doing with this Builder program. We have a chief Product officer that we brought on the beginning of this year that’s really helped us realize a lot of this. So shout out to Dave Berg on our team, who is really the mind child behind this effort. But going back to that idea as blockchain as an API, we’ve always just said, let’s just get data on chain. How do we do this? In a way that’s almost a commoditization of blockchain, just making it sort of an afterthought. Because one of the terms I use a lot, Josh, is that we’re not making technology to change the world.
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